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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Going Back To Windows</title>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-116355</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron,

Can you please shed some light on the reasons for not including an easy way to select from a larger list of screen resolutions.

I&#039;ve gone into creating/editing xconf.org as well as using &#039;xrandr&#039; and don&#039;t seem to be able to get it right. The forums are helpful, but most people seem happy with the resolutions they&#039;ve got and don&#039;t need this level of configuration.

This is the only part of Windows I admire. Just select the resolution you want and you&#039;re done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>Can you please shed some light on the reasons for not including an easy way to select from a larger list of screen resolutions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gone into creating/editing xconf.org as well as using &#8216;xrandr&#8217; and don&#8217;t seem to be able to get it right. The forums are helpful, but most people seem happy with the resolutions they&#8217;ve got and don&#8217;t need this level of configuration.</p>
<p>This is the only part of Windows I admire. Just select the resolution you want and you&#8217;re done!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-110582</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ste_a_b Have fun then. No one cares what operating system you&#039;re running. That&#039;s kind of the point of the post. If you don&#039;t like Ubuntu, then don&#039;t run it. No one cares about the choices you make in life unless they affect others. Your choice of operating system doesn&#039;t affect anyone around here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ste_a_b Have fun then. No one cares what operating system you&#8217;re running. That&#8217;s kind of the point of the post. If you don&#8217;t like Ubuntu, then don&#8217;t run it. No one cares about the choices you make in life unless they affect others. Your choice of operating system doesn&#8217;t affect anyone around here.</p>
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		<title>By: ste a b</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-110578</link>
		<dc:creator>ste a b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen. I have a computer so I can make music, edit my films, write documents, browse the web. I have just installed ubuntu because of all the positive talk about it. Now I have spent the last 5 hours trying to find instructions in ordinary English of how to install the f-ing display driver. I&#039;ve had to type my password in around 9 times already.  In XP, I double-click an exe, that&#039;s it.  Now I know why most people use windows. Which I will now re-install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen. I have a computer so I can make music, edit my films, write documents, browse the web. I have just installed ubuntu because of all the positive talk about it. Now I have spent the last 5 hours trying to find instructions in ordinary English of how to install the f-ing display driver. I&#8217;ve had to type my password in around 9 times already.  In XP, I double-click an exe, that&#8217;s it.  Now I know why most people use windows. Which I will now re-install.</p>
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		<title>By: severedsolo</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-110542</link>
		<dc:creator>severedsolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went back to Windows, but it had nothing to do with me not being bothered to learn linux, i installed Ubuntu Karmic Koala, and in principle, i had no problem with it, after a few teething troubles (1 driver issue, but it turned out that was my fault i cant blame ubuntu for that, i just didn&#039;t know you couldnt have 2 synaptics open) i got it all working, and spent a month getting to know how to use it, obviously i know i hadnt even scratched the surface, but it did what i wanted it to do, it let me web browse, email IM and torrent (which is &quot;normal&quot; use for me, if i&#039;m not tweaking, fiddling and generally doing things i know might break the OS, i do this on windows too, i do it to learn from my mistakes) it was a good stable operating system, and i had taken the time to learn it, any issues i had were solved by either a quick google search, or a post on the ubuntu forums.

so why did i go back to windows?

1. Grub2, possibly the WORST boot manager i have ever seen.... install an update? now you get 2 ubuntu entries (discarding recovery mode) and you cant delete the duplicate, (i understand you could on legacy Grub, but grub2 was complicated to configure... and to be honest, i dont want to spend 2 hours trying to delete a single entry from the bootloader)

2. I just didnt like the look of it, yes i know this is a really shallow issue, but even with different themes and such, it just didnt appeal to my aesthetic tastes, now thats personal choice, and as i said ubuntu did what i wanted it to, but if im going to spend 5 hours or up staring at a screen, i want it to look good....

3. no way to fix it if you c**k up except a reinstall, seriously? i managed to corrupt my graphics driver install the first time i installed it, as i said above, my own fault, and i went on the ubuntu forums, and just said &quot;look. i know iv messed this up, is there a &quot;system restore&quot; type feature so i can just get rid of this one dodgy driver, the answer came back &quot;no sorry youll have to reinstall&quot; now thats all very well and good because that was a fresh install, but what if it had happened a year down the line? iv got programs and files everywhere, and i have to reinstall? does the &quot;average&quot; user want to reinstall every time an update corrupts? hell, most average users dont even know HOW to install an OS,

5, i know this one isnt ubuntu&#039;s fault but the developers, but gaming, i love to game (when im not trying to break my OS) and rebooting into windows to do so every time i want to play a game is just annoying... Wine doesnt work for alot of games, (including one which WINE HQ said it did, but it just turned my screen black....) as i said that isnt Linux&#039;s fault, but its annoying

Now i have no problem using the command line, i often use it in windows, and i took the time to learn how to do basic tasks in CLI, i actually found it easier than using the GUI for certain features, (i find drag and drop very time consuming compared to using CLI for instance)

so, there are my reasons, these are just personal choices, and i did take the time to get used to Ubuntu and learn how to use it, and i completely agree with your point that people SHOULD do so, even with Windows (having said that if they did i wouldn&#039;t make any money) but i just didnt like it, its a good OS, and i have no doubt it suits alot of people, but it just wasnt my cup of tea,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went back to Windows, but it had nothing to do with me not being bothered to learn linux, i installed Ubuntu Karmic Koala, and in principle, i had no problem with it, after a few teething troubles (1 driver issue, but it turned out that was my fault i cant blame ubuntu for that, i just didn&#8217;t know you couldnt have 2 synaptics open) i got it all working, and spent a month getting to know how to use it, obviously i know i hadnt even scratched the surface, but it did what i wanted it to do, it let me web browse, email IM and torrent (which is &#8220;normal&#8221; use for me, if i&#8217;m not tweaking, fiddling and generally doing things i know might break the OS, i do this on windows too, i do it to learn from my mistakes) it was a good stable operating system, and i had taken the time to learn it, any issues i had were solved by either a quick google search, or a post on the ubuntu forums.</p>
<p>so why did i go back to windows?</p>
<p>1. Grub2, possibly the WORST boot manager i have ever seen&#8230;. install an update? now you get 2 ubuntu entries (discarding recovery mode) and you cant delete the duplicate, (i understand you could on legacy Grub, but grub2 was complicated to configure&#8230; and to be honest, i dont want to spend 2 hours trying to delete a single entry from the bootloader)</p>
<p>2. I just didnt like the look of it, yes i know this is a really shallow issue, but even with different themes and such, it just didnt appeal to my aesthetic tastes, now thats personal choice, and as i said ubuntu did what i wanted it to, but if im going to spend 5 hours or up staring at a screen, i want it to look good&#8230;.</p>
<p>3. no way to fix it if you c**k up except a reinstall, seriously? i managed to corrupt my graphics driver install the first time i installed it, as i said above, my own fault, and i went on the ubuntu forums, and just said &#8220;look. i know iv messed this up, is there a &#8220;system restore&#8221; type feature so i can just get rid of this one dodgy driver, the answer came back &#8220;no sorry youll have to reinstall&#8221; now thats all very well and good because that was a fresh install, but what if it had happened a year down the line? iv got programs and files everywhere, and i have to reinstall? does the &#8220;average&#8221; user want to reinstall every time an update corrupts? hell, most average users dont even know HOW to install an OS,</p>
<p>5, i know this one isnt ubuntu&#8217;s fault but the developers, but gaming, i love to game (when im not trying to break my OS) and rebooting into windows to do so every time i want to play a game is just annoying&#8230; Wine doesnt work for alot of games, (including one which WINE HQ said it did, but it just turned my screen black&#8230;.) as i said that isnt Linux&#8217;s fault, but its annoying</p>
<p>Now i have no problem using the command line, i often use it in windows, and i took the time to learn how to do basic tasks in CLI, i actually found it easier than using the GUI for certain features, (i find drag and drop very time consuming compared to using CLI for instance)</p>
<p>so, there are my reasons, these are just personal choices, and i did take the time to get used to Ubuntu and learn how to use it, and i completely agree with your point that people SHOULD do so, even with Windows (having said that if they did i wouldn&#8217;t make any money) but i just didnt like it, its a good OS, and i have no doubt it suits alot of people, but it just wasnt my cup of tea,</p>
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		<title>By: Lawyers Smithtown</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-110519</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawyers Smithtown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want waste my valuable time to spend in linux. Why I do hard work for nothing? I always love windows. And I use and will use this Microsoft windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want waste my valuable time to spend in linux. Why I do hard work for nothing? I always love windows. And I use and will use this Microsoft windows.</p>
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		<title>By: teletrabajando</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-110332</link>
		<dc:creator>teletrabajando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows will stay an important OS. Maybe they gain ground again with Windows 7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows will stay an important OS. Maybe they gain ground again with Windows 7.</p>
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		<title>By: moto</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-110070</link>
		<dc:creator>moto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is, that many softwares don&#039;t run under Linux, with Wine neither.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, that many softwares don&#8217;t run under Linux, with Wine neither.</p>
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		<title>By: The Doctor</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-109953</link>
		<dc:creator>The Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* ahem *

EULAs.

That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* ahem *</p>
<p>EULAs.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: _khAttAm_</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-109934</link>
		<dc:creator>_khAttAm_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care of people threatening of going back to windows. Who told you to come here in the first place. Go enjoy your Windows stuff while we enjoy Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care of people threatening of going back to windows. Who told you to come here in the first place. Go enjoy your Windows stuff while we enjoy Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Warp</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-109932</link>
		<dc:creator>Warp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dumped win95/98 after contant loss of data because of FAT.
I went to OS/2 and for years I was very happy, but hey, talking about a lack of software and hardware support :( , that&#039;s what drove me into using misc. Linux distro&#039;s.
The peace and productiveness it gives me is beyond believe.
I&#039;m hooked on ubuntu and puppy linux.
So @raul: the best thing MS has done was the development with IBM of the OS/2 desktop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dumped win95/98 after contant loss of data because of FAT.<br />
I went to OS/2 and for years I was very happy, but hey, talking about a lack of software and hardware support <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  , that&#8217;s what drove me into using misc. Linux distro&#8217;s.<br />
The peace and productiveness it gives me is beyond believe.<br />
I&#8217;m hooked on ubuntu and puppy linux.<br />
So @raul: the best thing MS has done was the development with IBM of the OS/2 desktop.</p>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-109931</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit Microsoft did something great for the desktop... But man, that was back in 1995. It&#039;s only about &quot;friendly&quot; propaganda since then. Even my cellphone has a friendlier way to operate, way better than Start Menu, so does any (GUI) operating system available. I think right now it&#039;s more of a monopoly issue, with Adobe and like big companies only supporting Windows and OSX. I think the war for the desktop should be one to defend the user from being &quot;used&quot; by those mafia bosses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit Microsoft did something great for the desktop&#8230; But man, that was back in 1995. It&#8217;s only about &#8220;friendly&#8221; propaganda since then. Even my cellphone has a friendlier way to operate, way better than Start Menu, so does any (GUI) operating system available. I think right now it&#8217;s more of a monopoly issue, with Adobe and like big companies only supporting Windows and OSX. I think the war for the desktop should be one to defend the user from being &#8220;used&#8221; by those mafia bosses.</p>
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		<title>By: an anteater</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-109921</link>
		<dc:creator>an anteater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is really a shame that one often hears the old stupid stories of how software on linux is hard to install and you have to use the cl constantly.

Today the cl can usually be used as a fallback for times when a frontend fails to do something or if you just feel more comfortable with it. Linux has come a long way in recent years and I&#039;m sure it will get a &quot;better&quot; reputation some day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is really a shame that one often hears the old stupid stories of how software on linux is hard to install and you have to use the cl constantly.</p>
<p>Today the cl can usually be used as a fallback for times when a frontend fails to do something or if you just feel more comfortable with it. Linux has come a long way in recent years and I&#8217;m sure it will get a &#8220;better&#8221; reputation some day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: portrait paintings</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-100229</link>
		<dc:creator>portrait paintings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Linux is really true to its promises, threats such as this one shouldn’t be a bother.  Linux and Windows both have their advantages and disadvantages.  The important thing is, one must carefully determine whether or not Linux would best serve his/her desired purposes or jobs to be accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Linux is really true to its promises, threats such as this one shouldn’t be a bother.  Linux and Windows both have their advantages and disadvantages.  The important thing is, one must carefully determine whether or not Linux would best serve his/her desired purposes or jobs to be accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: Oil Portrait paintin</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-98734</link>
		<dc:creator>Oil Portrait paintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just hit me bull’s eye.  I was once using Linux.  I admit I found it a little difficult to handle compared to Microsoft.  But the truth is, it was difficult because I was resistant to change.  Resistance towards change makes something new difficult for us to handle.  Are these people who are threatening Linux people to go back to Microsoft long-term users or are they just newbies?  If they’re newbies then expect that they will really look for something that’s as user-friendly as Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just hit me bull’s eye.  I was once using Linux.  I admit I found it a little difficult to handle compared to Microsoft.  But the truth is, it was difficult because I was resistant to change.  Resistance towards change makes something new difficult for us to handle.  Are these people who are threatening Linux people to go back to Microsoft long-term users or are they just newbies?  If they’re newbies then expect that they will really look for something that’s as user-friendly as Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: t-shirts</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/04/04/im-going-back-to-windows/#comment-89651</link>
		<dc:creator>t-shirts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well here&#039;s my two sense. I bought a new laptop with VISTA pre-installed, expecting to see it do (and operate) like I saw on the adverts, videos etc.
Only to find out that I don&#039;t get any of the cool features because I only have &#039;home&#039; edition (like, there&#039;s some major difference? and why?)
So I have to pay a fair amount of money just to get some extra security, usability, and cool features? why? 
Now, after 6 months, I&#039;ve finally taken the leap and installed Linux Ubuntu on my laptop. 
Here&#039;s what I have to say : WOW. Not just because of the cool features that Compiz brings (this is the first time I&#039;ve used virtual desktops – and they&#039;re brilliant. Why the heck did they bother not even putting virtual desktops into Vista?) But it&#039;s also brilliant because everything just WORKS. Seriously. Fine, I&#039;ve had some trouble with my suspend, but the operating system just works easily. Installations have been seamless. Getting my 3G Vodafone card to work, seamless (it took some trouble on Windows), getting networking to work, simple. Any slight issue i&#039;ve had has had quick and simple answers on the ubuntuforum.org. Any problems I had with windows had NO answers on Microsoft or their unhelpful forums.
Why anyone would go back to Windows is beyond me. I think it&#039;s because they were wanting something &#039;new&#039; in an OS, but in actual fact just wanted Windows with a cool desktop. With Ubuntu, I&#039;m getting FAR more than that!
As someone else said about Ubuntu vs Vista : Ubuntu goes out of the way to get out of your way. Vista goes out of it&#039;s way to insist on it&#039;s way. &#039;Nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well here&#8217;s my two sense. I bought a new laptop with VISTA pre-installed, expecting to see it do (and operate) like I saw on the adverts, videos etc.<br />
Only to find out that I don&#8217;t get any of the cool features because I only have &#8216;home&#8217; edition (like, there&#8217;s some major difference? and why?)<br />
So I have to pay a fair amount of money just to get some extra security, usability, and cool features? why?<br />
Now, after 6 months, I&#8217;ve finally taken the leap and installed Linux Ubuntu on my laptop.<br />
Here&#8217;s what I have to say : WOW. Not just because of the cool features that Compiz brings (this is the first time I&#8217;ve used virtual desktops – and they&#8217;re brilliant. Why the heck did they bother not even putting virtual desktops into Vista?) But it&#8217;s also brilliant because everything just WORKS. Seriously. Fine, I&#8217;ve had some trouble with my suspend, but the operating system just works easily. Installations have been seamless. Getting my 3G Vodafone card to work, seamless (it took some trouble on Windows), getting networking to work, simple. Any slight issue i&#8217;ve had has had quick and simple answers on the ubuntuforum.org. Any problems I had with windows had NO answers on Microsoft or their unhelpful forums.<br />
Why anyone would go back to Windows is beyond me. I think it&#8217;s because they were wanting something &#8216;new&#8217; in an OS, but in actual fact just wanted Windows with a cool desktop. With Ubuntu, I&#8217;m getting FAR more than that!<br />
As someone else said about Ubuntu vs Vista : Ubuntu goes out of the way to get out of your way. Vista goes out of it&#8217;s way to insist on it&#8217;s way. &#8216;Nuff said.</p>
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