Comments on: MacBook Pro or ThinkPad T61 http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/ Linux. GNU. Freedom. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:52:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0-alpha By: Dmitry Kalashnikov http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-108720 Dmitry Kalashnikov Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:32:13 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-108720 Hey dude, I bought both :) I am typing this on my 17-inch mac. I also use T61P (1920x1200) for work and business. They're the best laptops on the market today. I use a mac for video editing (and just about everything else). I have Windows Server 2008 on T61P -- quicker then vista (same kernel), but I think OS retails for about $4000. BTW, Ubunto 8 works great on Lenovo (except for suspend/hibernate). My site has reviews of both ... etc. Hey dude, I bought both :)

I am typing this on my 17-inch mac. I also use T61P (1920×1200) for work and business. They’re the best laptops on the market today. I use a mac for video editing (and just about everything else). I have Windows Server 2008 on T61P — quicker then vista (same kernel), but I think OS retails for about $4000. BTW, Ubunto 8 works great on Lenovo (except for suspend/hibernate). My site has reviews of both … etc.

]]> By: Paul http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-103901 Paul Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:54:18 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-103901 Solaris works fine on a T61. That's what this is posted from. :) Solaris works fine on a T61. That’s what this is posted from. :)

]]> By: Dmitry Kalashnikov http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-85807 Dmitry Kalashnikov Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:41:11 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-85807 I have t61p with 1920x1200! Its awesome. I've tried Ubuntu on it, now I am going back to FreEBSD. There are FreeBSD drivers for it directly from NVidia. I have t61p with 1920×1200! Its awesome. I’ve tried Ubuntu on it, now I am going back to FreEBSD. There are FreeBSD drivers for it directly from NVidia.

]]> By: Olivier http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-84719 Olivier Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:10:06 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-84719 Very well. I am going with the Thinkpad T61p then. The heat under, the ATI graphic card, the funny Wireless Card efficiency, PHP development software not supported on OSX rulled out the MBP. The Thinkpad T61p has a res. of 1900x1200px on a 15.4inch screen, Hawesome. EVERYBODY is stunned with the quality of the keyboard any forum I go. Thinkpad is much easier to upgrade to Linux when Adobe Software will be ready to move there when the time comes if ever. Whatever Linux system, any, Novell, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Red Hat (Shouting at Adobe!). The tough built Thinkpad is a plus too, although I will all the time stay concerned about the customer service since it became Lenovo until I buy one and experience it. All the best to all in this jungle !! Very well. I am going with the Thinkpad T61p then. The heat under, the ATI graphic card, the funny Wireless Card efficiency, PHP development software not supported on OSX rulled out the MBP.

The Thinkpad T61p has a res. of 1900×1200px on a 15.4inch screen, Hawesome. EVERYBODY is stunned with the quality of the keyboard any forum I go.

Thinkpad is much easier to upgrade to Linux when Adobe Software will be ready to move there when the time comes if ever. Whatever Linux system, any, Novell, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Red Hat (Shouting at Adobe!).

The tough built Thinkpad is a plus too, although I will all the time stay concerned about the customer service since it became Lenovo until I buy one and experience it.

All the best to all in this jungle !!

]]> By: Dag http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-76602 Dag Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:03:57 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-76602 Interesting discussion! I'm just going through the same tough decision between MBP and T61. MBP disqualified itself by the extreme heat underneath - the word laptop get a dangerous touch. So I want a T61, but I'm a bit concerned about the USB interrupt problem - see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/126369. I'm also using projectors sometimes and want to get acceptable image without having to restart x. Another concern is suspend/resume that just MUST work. What I read in http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.10_%28Gutsy_Gibbon%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61 didn't reassure me. Interesting discussion! I’m just going through the same tough decision between MBP and T61. MBP disqualified itself by the extreme heat underneath – the word laptop get a dangerous touch.

So I want a T61, but I’m a bit concerned about the USB interrupt problem – see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/126369.

I’m also using projectors sometimes and want to get acceptable image without having to restart x.

Another concern is suspend/resume that just MUST work. What I read in http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.10_%28Gutsy_Gibbon%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61 didn’t reassure me.

]]> By: Sean http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-76498 Sean Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:12:31 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-76498 I've owned a Macbook for over a year. Steer clear. I grew up using Macs. I've professionally repaired computers for over 6 years. Apple products are pretty but I have a lot of complaints, as do others. I own a Dell Latitude D830 with 1920x1200 Display and Ubuntu Gutsy is running flawlessly on it. I'm considering buying a Thinkpad T61 after I get rid of my Macbook. I’ve owned a Macbook for over a year. Steer clear. I grew up using Macs. I’ve professionally repaired computers for over 6 years. Apple products are pretty but I have a lot of complaints, as do others. I own a Dell Latitude D830 with 1920×1200 Display and Ubuntu Gutsy is running flawlessly on it. I’m considering buying a Thinkpad T61 after I get rid of my Macbook.

]]> By: Steve http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-66450 Steve Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:46:08 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-66450 I'm in the same situation myself. I read a few people noting the one button trackpad being an issue. However, you can enable a two-finger tap to be registered as a right-click. I sometimes wonder why this hasn't been implemented by other manufacturers. I’m in the same situation myself. I read a few people noting the one button trackpad being an issue. However, you can enable a two-finger tap to be registered as a right-click. I sometimes wonder why this hasn’t been implemented by other manufacturers.

]]> By: Fabio http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-66257 Fabio Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:10:05 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-66257 have you recived your T61?I've the same problem in the choice between MBP and T61p...how does it works?Which kind of processor and graphic accelerator have you installed? nVidia Quadro? Can you please post a benchmark? have you recived your T61?I’ve the same problem in the choice between MBP and T61p…how does it works?Which kind of processor and graphic accelerator have you installed?
nVidia Quadro?
Can you please post a benchmark?

]]> By: Aaron Toponce » Blog Archive » A New Companion- The T61 http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-65957 Aaron Toponce » Blog Archive » A New Companion- The T61 Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:52:36 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-65957 [...] my new laptop came via UPS. I decided on the Lenovo Thinkpad T61, which it seems to me, has turned out to be a fairly popular laptop. [...] [...] my new laptop came via UPS. I decided on the Lenovo Thinkpad T61, which it seems to me, has turned out to be a fairly popular laptop. [...]

]]> By: Aaron Toponce » Blog Archive » My Home Network http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-65607 Aaron Toponce » Blog Archive » My Home Network Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:03:36 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-65607 [...] one of the Titans, son of Styx and Pallas. He is the god of strength and power. This new laptop (I chose the T61), is loaded with top-of-the-line hardware, full of processing power, and plenty of RAM. Kratos [...] [...] one of the Titans, son of Styx and Pallas. He is the god of strength and power. This new laptop (I chose the T61), is loaded with top-of-the-line hardware, full of processing power, and plenty of RAM. Kratos [...]

]]> By: Mike http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-65453 Mike Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:52:15 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-65453 Aaron did your experience installing Ubuntu on the ThinkPad mirror James? I am a long time ThinkPad user and have just started using Ubuntu on our old tired XP desktops at home, The one I am using now is a very old EMachine headed for the trash that works just fine. I keep reading about "issues" with notebooks and wireless networking so I am interested in how you dealt with that. And why would you not consider the Dell notebook with Ubuntu preinstalled? Sorry for the newbie questions. Aaron did your experience installing Ubuntu on the ThinkPad mirror James?

I am a long time ThinkPad user and have just started using Ubuntu on our old tired XP desktops at home, The one I am using now is a very old EMachine headed for the trash that works just fine.

I keep reading about “issues” with notebooks and wireless networking so I am interested in how you dealt with that.

And why would you not consider the Dell notebook with Ubuntu preinstalled?

Sorry for the newbie questions.

]]> By: chris http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-64815 chris Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:19:46 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-64815 If you haven't actually committed yet, I can vouch for Dell's D630. The 630 is their 14" while 830 is 15" screen. The hardware seems similar to your specs. I paid ~$1200 for mine. Installing kubuntu took a few tries, but I've got a recipe that works well -- and all functionality of laptop works. It's on ubuntuforums or I can share if interested. If you haven’t actually committed yet, I can vouch for Dell’s D630. The 630 is their 14″ while 830 is 15″ screen. The hardware seems similar to your specs. I paid ~$1200 for mine. Installing kubuntu took a few tries, but I’ve got a recipe that works well — and all functionality of laptop works. It’s on ubuntuforums or I can share if interested.

]]> By: James http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-64397 James Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:40:38 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-64397 Nice to hear you got a ThinkPad; I made the same decision myself. Installing Ubuntu on it is a nightmare, though. Some tips I have are: •Use 7.10 (Gutsy) because 7.04 uses the wrong graphics drivers (assuming Intel GMA965) by default. • Install using the alternate CDs - 7.04 requires text mode and 7.10 will install but not launch the windowing system correctly with the normal CD. I'm seriously considering Solaris, but I hear that it has terrible hardware support as well... And yes, go with a ThinkPad (Atheros) card. It's the best out of the three. Nice to hear you got a ThinkPad; I made the same decision myself.

Installing Ubuntu on it is a nightmare, though.
Some tips I have are:
•Use 7.10 (Gutsy) because 7.04 uses the wrong graphics drivers (assuming Intel GMA965) by default.
• Install using the alternate CDs – 7.04 requires text mode and 7.10 will install but not launch the windowing system correctly with the normal CD.

I’m seriously considering Solaris, but I hear that it has terrible hardware support as well…

And yes, go with a ThinkPad (Atheros) card. It’s the best out of the three.

]]> By: Aaron http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-64170 Aaron Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:55:06 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-64170 @Mike- I have decided to purchase the ThinkPad T61, although, I have to receive my checks in the mail that I'm waiting for to make the plunge. I expect the ThinkPad to be purchased sometime this week, or next, however. @Mike- I have decided to purchase the ThinkPad T61, although, I have to receive my checks in the mail that I’m waiting for to make the plunge. I expect the ThinkPad to be purchased sometime this week, or next, however.

]]> By: Mike http://pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-63005 Mike Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:52:22 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/06/23/macbook-pro-or-thinkpad-t61/#comment-63005 So what was your decision? So what was your decision?

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