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	<title>Comments on: KDE- Hello Again</title>
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	<description>Linux.  GNU.  Freedom.</description>
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		<title>By: Henrik Pauli</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-71172</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik Pauli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was somehow thinking you had been a KUser all this time!  Colour me surprised! XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was somehow thinking you had been a KUser all this time!  Colour me surprised! XD</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70870</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Who else should I be blaming. When my desktop environment cannot meet certain expectations, what am I to do? I’m am running Debian Sid."

Hibernation isn't really handled by the desktop environment. I believe both Gnome and KDE throw the task to swsusp, uswsusp, or suspend2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who else should I be blaming. When my desktop environment cannot meet certain expectations, what am I to do? I’m am running Debian Sid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hibernation isn&#8217;t really handled by the desktop environment. I believe both Gnome and KDE throw the task to swsusp, uswsusp, or suspend2.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfger</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70855</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome home!

In my early Linux days, I loved Enlightenment and Black/Flux-box. I couldn't see the appeal of either of the "big 2". Then around about the release of KDE 3.2 I tried KDE again, and I fell in... like. Not love yet, but the potential was there. K3b, Akregator, Digikam... wonderful apps that made me want a KDE environment. With my recent switch to Ubuntu, I too switched to Gnome. But it didn't give me the impression that KDE was bloated, it gave me the impression that I was now computing with handcuffs on. I couldn't do the things I wanted to do to customize my apps. My affair with Gnome only lasted a week and a half, and I swear it didn't mean a thing! Thankfully KDE took me back. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome home!</p>
<p>In my early Linux days, I loved Enlightenment and Black/Flux-box. I couldn&#8217;t see the appeal of either of the &#8220;big 2&#8243;. Then around about the release of KDE 3.2 I tried KDE again, and I fell in&#8230; like. Not love yet, but the potential was there. K3b, Akregator, Digikam&#8230; wonderful apps that made me want a KDE environment. With my recent switch to Ubuntu, I too switched to Gnome. But it didn&#8217;t give me the impression that KDE was bloated, it gave me the impression that I was now computing with handcuffs on. I couldn&#8217;t do the things I wanted to do to customize my apps. My affair with Gnome only lasted a week and a half, and I swear it didn&#8217;t mean a thing! Thankfully KDE took me back. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Terence Simpson</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70830</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron:
Well, I tend to just use aptitude, but it was just an example app to show the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron:<br />
Well, I tend to just use aptitude, but it was just an example app to show the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: onety-three</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70813</link>
		<dc:creator>onety-three</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron:
Firefox/Thunderbird use their own toolkit with a little smoke and mirrors to look like GTK apps, that's why they don't really fit into Gnome either and prove to make integration into KDE even more difficult than Gnome apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron:<br />
Firefox/Thunderbird use their own toolkit with a little smoke and mirrors to look like GTK apps, that&#8217;s why they don&#8217;t really fit into Gnome either and prove to make integration into KDE even more difficult than Gnome apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70808</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben Lewis, @Jake-  Everything in KDE thus far has been wonderful.  I'm really looking forward to 4.0!

@Seth-  This is my typical writing style.  I usually bring out the peanut gallery with my posts. :)

@al-  Thanks for your ever-so-insightful comment.  It really adds to the discussion here.

@Terence-  Since using aptitude, I haven't pulled up Synaptic in a *long* time.

@yay-  Yes, it definitely runs faster, and I could make KDE look *exacly* like a Gilouche environment with little effort.  By the way, how is Gilouche *any* different from ClearLooks?

@Lure-  Just run Firefox/Thunderbird in KDE, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

@David-  Yeah, I think I'll just stick with mostly KDE apps though.  IceApe doesn't look half-bad, however.  Pleasantly surprised.

@Hoàng Đức Hiếu-  Who else should I be blaming.  When my desktop environment cannot meet certain expectations, what am I to do?  I'm am running Debian Sid.

@fred-  Thank you sweetheart.  It's good to be back.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben Lewis, @Jake-  Everything in KDE thus far has been wonderful.  I&#8217;m really looking forward to 4.0!</p>
<p>@Seth-  This is my typical writing style.  I usually bring out the peanut gallery with my posts. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@al-  Thanks for your ever-so-insightful comment.  It really adds to the discussion here.</p>
<p>@Terence-  Since using aptitude, I haven&#8217;t pulled up Synaptic in a *long* time.</p>
<p>@yay-  Yes, it definitely runs faster, and I could make KDE look *exacly* like a Gilouche environment with little effort.  By the way, how is Gilouche *any* different from ClearLooks?</p>
<p>@Lure-  Just run Firefox/Thunderbird in KDE, and you&#8217;ll see what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>@David-  Yeah, I think I&#8217;ll just stick with mostly KDE apps though.  IceApe doesn&#8217;t look half-bad, however.  Pleasantly surprised.</p>
<p>@Hoàng Đức Hiếu-  Who else should I be blaming.  When my desktop environment cannot meet certain expectations, what am I to do?  I&#8217;m am running Debian Sid.</p>
<p>@fred-  Thank you sweetheart.  It&#8217;s good to be back.  <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70798</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back to KDE, my dear ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to KDE, my dear <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hoàng Đức Hiếu</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70795</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoàng Đức Hiếu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you using the same versions of the same distro? Because blaming un-hibernateable on the desktop env makes no sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you using the same versions of the same distro? Because blaming un-hibernateable on the desktop env makes no sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70790</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About gtk apps in kde, have you installed gtk-qt-engine it will make your gtk apps fit in better with kde. Its not perfect but its close.

as for yay: yes you can have a gilouche equivalent. use qtcurve and a gilouche colour scheme. hope your enjoying WinXP :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About gtk apps in kde, have you installed gtk-qt-engine it will make your gtk apps fit in better with kde. Its not perfect but its close.</p>
<p>as for yay: yes you can have a gilouche equivalent. use qtcurve and a gilouche colour scheme. hope your enjoying WinXP <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lure</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70784</link>
		<dc:creator>Lure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you post some screenshots about GTK in KDE that bothers you? Sure gtk looks different in KDE, but I cannot say it looks ugly - or I just got used to it. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you post some screenshots about GTK in KDE that bothers you? Sure gtk looks different in KDE, but I cannot say it looks ugly - or I just got used to it. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yay</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70768</link>
		<dc:creator>yay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>........you launch applications faster, and you look good.


Hhahahahahaha

Looks good hahahah

Gimme a Gilouche Equivalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;..you launch applications faster, and you look good.</p>
<p>Hhahahahahaha</p>
<p>Looks good hahahah</p>
<p>Gimme a Gilouche Equivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Simpson</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70767</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, KDE is pretty sweet and getting better all the time. You can really see the improvements from release to release.
On the "GTK apps look ugly" subject, yeah, that's true. QtCurve can ease that though. For example &lt;a href="http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1053/test6na9.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;Synaptic with QtCurve style&lt;/a&gt; looks much nicer, or at least more integrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, KDE is pretty sweet and getting better all the time. You can really see the improvements from release to release.<br />
On the &#8220;GTK apps look ugly&#8221; subject, yeah, that&#8217;s true. QtCurve can ease that though. For example <a href="http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1053/test6na9.jpg" rel="nofollow">Synaptic with QtCurve style</a> looks much nicer, or at least more integrated.</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70762</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a love letter ... and next week he loves gnome again. give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a love letter &#8230; and next week he loves gnome again. give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70759</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like it's flame-war week on Aaron's blog. :-)

Or maybe not; sometimes I get the impression there's not nearly as many Gnome die-hards out there as the KDE... Anyway, I personally don't like either. That having been said &lt;a href="http://www.tuxjournal.net/?p=791" rel="nofollow"&gt;these screenies&lt;/a&gt; of KDE 4 are awful pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it&#8217;s flame-war week on Aaron&#8217;s blog. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Or maybe not; sometimes I get the impression there&#8217;s not nearly as many Gnome die-hards out there as the KDE&#8230; Anyway, I personally don&#8217;t like either. That having been said <a href="http://www.tuxjournal.net/?p=791" rel="nofollow">these screenies</a> of KDE 4 are awful pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70754</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love KDE. I too started with KDE back in the SuSE days and loved it. Somewhere along the way I switched to GNOME for a few months. I finally realized how bad it was and now I'm back with KDE running almost all KDE software, except for Songbird and Firefox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love KDE. I too started with KDE back in the SuSE days and loved it. Somewhere along the way I switched to GNOME for a few months. I finally realized how bad it was and now I&#8217;m back with KDE running almost all KDE software, except for Songbird and Firefox.</p>
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