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		<title>By: Henrik Pauli</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-71172</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik Pauli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was somehow thinking you had been a KUser all this time!  Colour me surprised! XD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was somehow thinking you had been a KUser all this time!  Colour me surprised! XD</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70870</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Who else should I be blaming. When my desktop environment cannot meet certain expectations, what am I to do? I’m am running Debian Sid.&quot;

Hibernation isn&#039;t really handled by the desktop environment. I believe both Gnome and KDE throw the task to swsusp, uswsusp, or suspend2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who else should I be blaming. When my desktop environment cannot meet certain expectations, what am I to do? I’m am running Debian Sid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hibernation isn&#8217;t really handled by the desktop environment. I believe both Gnome and KDE throw the task to swsusp, uswsusp, or suspend2.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfger</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70855</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome home!

In my early Linux days, I loved Enlightenment and Black/Flux-box. I couldn&#039;t see the appeal of either of the &quot;big 2&quot;. Then around about the release of KDE 3.2 I tried KDE again, and I fell in... like. Not love yet, but the potential was there. K3b, Akregator, Digikam... wonderful apps that made me want a KDE environment. With my recent switch to Ubuntu, I too switched to Gnome. But it didn&#039;t give me the impression that KDE was bloated, it gave me the impression that I was now computing with handcuffs on. I couldn&#039;t do the things I wanted to do to customize my apps. My affair with Gnome only lasted a week and a half, and I swear it didn&#039;t mean a thing! Thankfully KDE took me back. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome home!</p>
<p>In my early Linux days, I loved Enlightenment and Black/Flux-box. I couldn&#8217;t see the appeal of either of the &#8220;big 2&#8243;. Then around about the release of KDE 3.2 I tried KDE again, and I fell in&#8230; like. Not love yet, but the potential was there. K3b, Akregator, Digikam&#8230; wonderful apps that made me want a KDE environment. With my recent switch to Ubuntu, I too switched to Gnome. But it didn&#8217;t give me the impression that KDE was bloated, it gave me the impression that I was now computing with handcuffs on. I couldn&#8217;t do the things I wanted to do to customize my apps. My affair with Gnome only lasted a week and a half, and I swear it didn&#8217;t mean a thing! Thankfully KDE took me back. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Terence Simpson</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70830</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Aaron:
Well, I tend to just use aptitude, but it was just an example app to show the difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron:<br />
Well, I tend to just use aptitude, but it was just an example app to show the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: onety-three</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70813</link>
		<dc:creator>onety-three</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Aaron:
Firefox/Thunderbird use their own toolkit with a little smoke and mirrors to look like GTK apps, that&#039;s why they don&#039;t really fit into Gnome either and prove to make integration into KDE even more difficult than Gnome apps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron:<br />
Firefox/Thunderbird use their own toolkit with a little smoke and mirrors to look like GTK apps, that&#8217;s why they don&#8217;t really fit into Gnome either and prove to make integration into KDE even more difficult than Gnome apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70808</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ben Lewis, @Jake-  Everything in KDE thus far has been wonderful.  I&#039;m really looking forward to 4.0!

@Seth-  This is my typical writing style.  I usually bring out the peanut gallery with my posts. :)

@al-  Thanks for your ever-so-insightful comment.  It really adds to the discussion here.

@Terence-  Since using aptitude, I haven&#039;t pulled up Synaptic in a *long* time.

@yay-  Yes, it definitely runs faster, and I could make KDE look *exacly* like a Gilouche environment with little effort.  By the way, how is Gilouche *any* different from ClearLooks?

@Lure-  Just run Firefox/Thunderbird in KDE, and you&#039;ll see what I&#039;m talking about.

@David-  Yeah, I think I&#039;ll just stick with mostly KDE apps though.  IceApe doesn&#039;t look half-bad, however.  Pleasantly surprised.

@Hoàng Đức Hiếu-  Who else should I be blaming.  When my desktop environment cannot meet certain expectations, what am I to do?  I&#039;m am running Debian Sid.

@fred-  Thank you sweetheart.  It&#039;s good to be back.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben Lewis, @Jake-  Everything in KDE thus far has been wonderful.  I&#8217;m really looking forward to 4.0!</p>
<p>@Seth-  This is my typical writing style.  I usually bring out the peanut gallery with my posts. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@al-  Thanks for your ever-so-insightful comment.  It really adds to the discussion here.</p>
<p>@Terence-  Since using aptitude, I haven&#8217;t pulled up Synaptic in a *long* time.</p>
<p>@yay-  Yes, it definitely runs faster, and I could make KDE look *exacly* like a Gilouche environment with little effort.  By the way, how is Gilouche *any* different from ClearLooks?</p>
<p>@Lure-  Just run Firefox/Thunderbird in KDE, and you&#8217;ll see what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>@David-  Yeah, I think I&#8217;ll just stick with mostly KDE apps though.  IceApe doesn&#8217;t look half-bad, however.  Pleasantly surprised.</p>
<p>@Hoàng Đức Hiếu-  Who else should I be blaming.  When my desktop environment cannot meet certain expectations, what am I to do?  I&#8217;m am running Debian Sid.</p>
<p>@fred-  Thank you sweetheart.  It&#8217;s good to be back.  <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70798</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome back to KDE, my dear ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to KDE, my dear <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hoàng Đức Hiếu</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70795</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoàng Đức Hiếu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you using the same versions of the same distro? Because blaming un-hibernateable on the desktop env makes no sense to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you using the same versions of the same distro? Because blaming un-hibernateable on the desktop env makes no sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70790</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About gtk apps in kde, have you installed gtk-qt-engine it will make your gtk apps fit in better with kde. Its not perfect but its close.

as for yay: yes you can have a gilouche equivalent. use qtcurve and a gilouche colour scheme. hope your enjoying WinXP :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About gtk apps in kde, have you installed gtk-qt-engine it will make your gtk apps fit in better with kde. Its not perfect but its close.</p>
<p>as for yay: yes you can have a gilouche equivalent. use qtcurve and a gilouche colour scheme. hope your enjoying WinXP <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lure</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70784</link>
		<dc:creator>Lure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you post some screenshots about GTK in KDE that bothers you? Sure gtk looks different in KDE, but I cannot say it looks ugly - or I just got used to it. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you post some screenshots about GTK in KDE that bothers you? Sure gtk looks different in KDE, but I cannot say it looks ugly &#8211; or I just got used to it. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yay</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70768</link>
		<dc:creator>yay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[........you launch applications faster, and you look good.


Hhahahahahaha

Looks good hahahah

Gimme a Gilouche Equivalent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;..you launch applications faster, and you look good.</p>
<p>Hhahahahahaha</p>
<p>Looks good hahahah</p>
<p>Gimme a Gilouche Equivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Simpson</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70767</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, KDE is pretty sweet and getting better all the time. You can really see the improvements from release to release.
On the &quot;GTK apps look ugly&quot; subject, yeah, that&#039;s true. QtCurve can ease that though. For example &lt;a href=&quot;http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1053/test6na9.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Synaptic with QtCurve style&lt;/a&gt; looks much nicer, or at least more integrated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, KDE is pretty sweet and getting better all the time. You can really see the improvements from release to release.<br />
On the &#8220;GTK apps look ugly&#8221; subject, yeah, that&#8217;s true. QtCurve can ease that though. For example <a href="http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1053/test6na9.jpg" rel="nofollow">Synaptic with QtCurve style</a> looks much nicer, or at least more integrated.</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70762</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This sounds like a love letter ... and next week he loves gnome again. give me a break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a love letter &#8230; and next week he loves gnome again. give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70759</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like it&#039;s flame-war week on Aaron&#039;s blog. :-)

Or maybe not; sometimes I get the impression there&#039;s not nearly as many Gnome die-hards out there as the KDE... Anyway, I personally don&#039;t like either. That having been said &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tuxjournal.net/?p=791&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these screenies&lt;/a&gt; of KDE 4 are awful pretty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it&#8217;s flame-war week on Aaron&#8217;s blog. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Or maybe not; sometimes I get the impression there&#8217;s not nearly as many Gnome die-hards out there as the KDE&#8230; Anyway, I personally don&#8217;t like either. That having been said <a href="http://www.tuxjournal.net/?p=791" rel="nofollow">these screenies</a> of KDE 4 are awful pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/09/27/kde-hello-again/#comment-70754</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love KDE. I too started with KDE back in the SuSE days and loved it. Somewhere along the way I switched to GNOME for a few months. I finally realized how bad it was and now I&#039;m back with KDE running almost all KDE software, except for Songbird and Firefox.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love KDE. I too started with KDE back in the SuSE days and loved it. Somewhere along the way I switched to GNOME for a few months. I finally realized how bad it was and now I&#8217;m back with KDE running almost all KDE software, except for Songbird and Firefox.</p>
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