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	<title>Comments on: Apology Issued To Google And My Readers</title>
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	<description>Linux.  GNU.  Freedom.</description>
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		<title>By: Dread Knight</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-84008</link>
		<dc:creator>Dread Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woop! You did the right thing. I'm proud of you.

So hopefuly in the near future you won't need things like Kopete, Pidgin, InstantBird, Trillian, Adium, etc, you will only need a Jabber client. This would make things easier. A better world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woop! You did the right thing. I&#8217;m proud of you.</p>
<p>So hopefuly in the near future you won&#8217;t need things like Kopete, Pidgin, InstantBird, Trillian, Adium, etc, you will only need a Jabber client. This would make things easier. A better world.</p>
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		<title>By: zik</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83889</link>
		<dc:creator>zik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google may or may not be evil, but the store-and-forward passwords feature of jabber certainly is.

Sharing passwords is a Bad Thing.  Storing passwords is an Evil Thing.

Every jabber server I looked at stores passwords in plain text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google may or may not be evil, but the store-and-forward passwords feature of jabber certainly is.</p>
<p>Sharing passwords is a Bad Thing.  Storing passwords is an Evil Thing.</p>
<p>Every jabber server I looked at stores passwords in plain text.</p>
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		<title>By: shermann</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83767</link>
		<dc:creator>shermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>selkie: google will use an aim transport here which is using the aim protocol...if they don't use it, just fire the CTO..
the transport is giving all the opportunities to sync the roster and give the jabber user the "just sending an IM to an aim user"...
if google is using the "one client and hundreds protocol" technique, they are just as stupid as all kopete and gaim users or trillian and/or miranda users</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>selkie: google will use an aim transport here which is using the aim protocol&#8230;if they don&#8217;t use it, just fire the CTO..<br />
the transport is giving all the opportunities to sync the roster and give the jabber user the &#8220;just sending an IM to an aim user&#8221;&#8230;<br />
if google is using the &#8220;one client and hundreds protocol&#8221; technique, they are just as stupid as all kopete and gaim users or trillian and/or miranda users</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schroeder</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83765</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou. This is a much more rational and informed post. Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou. This is a much more rational and informed post. Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83755</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent post.   I must say when I saw your first post I thought it was a little over the top.  Well done for having the courage to admit you were wrong, and to explain in such detail why you were wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent post.   I must say when I saw your first post I thought it was a little over the top.  Well done for having the courage to admit you were wrong, and to explain in such detail why you were wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Sander</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83753</link>
		<dc:creator>Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open AIM is used for the contact list. Maybe Google couldn't use XMPP for that here because AOL has patented contact lists in the USA.

You can send messages to AIM users from within other XMPP clients when you're logged in to Gmail. You should direct your messages to aimscreenname@aim then. So this technique may probably be called a transport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open AIM is used for the contact list. Maybe Google couldn&#8217;t use XMPP for that here because AOL has patented contact lists in the USA.</p>
<p>You can send messages to AIM users from within other XMPP clients when you&#8217;re logged in to Gmail. You should direct your messages to aimscreenname@aim then. So this technique may probably be called a transport.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Buranen</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83751</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Buranen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To carry your first analogy to the second, Google is like that Chevy dealer, but they aren't selling Fords, they're just giving you the option of adding xm radio that is AOL in addition assuming you have an account with xm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To carry your first analogy to the second, Google is like that Chevy dealer, but they aren&#8217;t selling Fords, they&#8217;re just giving you the option of adding xm radio that is AOL in addition assuming you have an account with xm.</p>
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		<title>By: selkie</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83750</link>
		<dc:creator>selkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you still got it wrong, google is NOT using a transport here. they cleary say they are using "openaim"

While i am not sure what that means (for me it sounds like the same thing for example piding does) obviously it does not mean i can use my pure jabber client to connect to my gtalk account and chat on aim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you still got it wrong, google is NOT using a transport here. they cleary say they are using &#8220;openaim&#8221;</p>
<p>While i am not sure what that means (for me it sounds like the same thing for example piding does) obviously it does not mean i can use my pure jabber client to connect to my gtalk account and chat on aim.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Jones</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83749</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolfger</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2007/12/12/apology-issued-to-google-and-my-readers/#comment-83736</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Props to the man who admits his mistakes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Props to the man who admits his mistakes!</p>
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