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		<title>By: Levente Hajdu</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-110051</link>
		<dc:creator>Levente Hajdu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate to admit it but, what the screen shot of an OS looks like plays a big roll in if I would try it or not. If it looks polished I am likely to assume the underlying code is also polished. I am shore this fact is not lost on the likes of Windows and Apple. If the special effects look like there going to use up tons of CPU without a usability advantage that’s a bit of a turn-off.    

I have always been more initially impressed by the Fedora artwork, not just the background but comparing Fadora 11 vs Ubontu 9.04 the icons in Fadora seem more polished less boxy (gnome), (such as the one of the hard drive). Although an terms of long term use I prefer a balance of colors over one overwhelming color I think Fadora 8 background came the closest to balancing the blue and the pink. I also like some of the fractal backgrounds on http://exoteric.roach.org . The author gives them away free. Maybe he should work out a deal with some of the linux distros. 

Back in the day when we all used CRTs dark backgrounds where preferred the electron beams would cause the phosphor to light less brightly over time. Now that we have the LCD which is backlit by fluorescence tubes (same mechanism for emitting the light but a different mechanism for drawing the image) which are always on, brighter backgrounds may be preferred because they let more of the light through transforming less of it to heat hopefully extending the life of the liquid crystal elements. This will be less of an issue when we get LED back lit displays, but brighter backgrounds will still be preferred (at least technically). I don’t know who has an advantage here.

I don’t want to seem racist here but there are cultural differences impacting what people may find more appealing. People from Africa seem to like rich brown earthy colors. People from South America seem to like a mix of bright vibrant colors (reds greens, pinks, yellows). People from the Northern parts of Europe like Sweeten like neutral whites and grays. Perhaps it comes from the natural scenery of these locations imprinting at young age. There is the red-ish iron rich earth of Africa and the brown savannas, the rain forests of Brazil and the snow in Northern Europe.

Ok I think I have over analyzed this to death and probably committed a ton of spelling and terminology mistakes in the process.   

Leve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to admit it but, what the screen shot of an OS looks like plays a big roll in if I would try it or not. If it looks polished I am likely to assume the underlying code is also polished. I am shore this fact is not lost on the likes of Windows and Apple. If the special effects look like there going to use up tons of CPU without a usability advantage that’s a bit of a turn-off.    </p>
<p>I have always been more initially impressed by the Fedora artwork, not just the background but comparing Fadora 11 vs Ubontu 9.04 the icons in Fadora seem more polished less boxy (gnome), (such as the one of the hard drive). Although an terms of long term use I prefer a balance of colors over one overwhelming color I think Fadora 8 background came the closest to balancing the blue and the pink. I also like some of the fractal backgrounds on <a href="http://exoteric.roach.org" rel="nofollow">http://exoteric.roach.org</a> . The author gives them away free. Maybe he should work out a deal with some of the linux distros. </p>
<p>Back in the day when we all used CRTs dark backgrounds where preferred the electron beams would cause the phosphor to light less brightly over time. Now that we have the LCD which is backlit by fluorescence tubes (same mechanism for emitting the light but a different mechanism for drawing the image) which are always on, brighter backgrounds may be preferred because they let more of the light through transforming less of it to heat hopefully extending the life of the liquid crystal elements. This will be less of an issue when we get LED back lit displays, but brighter backgrounds will still be preferred (at least technically). I don’t know who has an advantage here.</p>
<p>I don’t want to seem racist here but there are cultural differences impacting what people may find more appealing. People from Africa seem to like rich brown earthy colors. People from South America seem to like a mix of bright vibrant colors (reds greens, pinks, yellows). People from the Northern parts of Europe like Sweeten like neutral whites and grays. Perhaps it comes from the natural scenery of these locations imprinting at young age. There is the red-ish iron rich earth of Africa and the brown savannas, the rain forests of Brazil and the snow in Northern Europe.</p>
<p>Ok I think I have over analyzed this to death and probably committed a ton of spelling and terminology mistakes in the process.   </p>
<p>Leve</p>
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		<title>By: Installing Fedora 10 &#171; UncleFlo</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109915</link>
		<dc:creator>Installing Fedora 10 &#171; UncleFlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] interface styles and themes for every release. While googling for the untouched background image, I found a discussion about comparing the artwork for Fedora 10 with Ubuntu, and found that Fedora had a developed [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] interface styles and themes for every release. While googling for the untouched background image, I found a discussion about comparing the artwork for Fedora 10 with Ubuntu, and found that Fedora had a developed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: karlzt</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109895</link>
		<dc:creator>karlzt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ubuntu 8.10 wallpaper makes me puke]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubuntu 8.10 wallpaper makes me puke</p>
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		<title>By: steveacab</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109685</link>
		<dc:creator>steveacab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there isn&#039;t the question. I love brown and orange color, but the ubuntu&#039;s wallpaper aren&#039;t better than fedora.

And... seriousely (?) the name of ubuntu 9.04... is obscene!!! jaunty jackalope... they don&#039;t think un normal name???

I search the new artwork in the official wiki and are nice, but fedora&#039;s wallpaper is better!

Remember... I use ubuntu!

p.s. sorry for my bad english.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there isn&#8217;t the question. I love brown and orange color, but the ubuntu&#8217;s wallpaper aren&#8217;t better than fedora.</p>
<p>And&#8230; seriousely (?) the name of ubuntu 9.04&#8230; is obscene!!! jaunty jackalope&#8230; they don&#8217;t think un normal name???</p>
<p>I search the new artwork in the official wiki and are nice, but fedora&#8217;s wallpaper is better!</p>
<p>Remember&#8230; I use ubuntu!</p>
<p>p.s. sorry for my bad english.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael "Color"</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109684</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael "Color"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scored by originality and attractiveness, I must say that the third-to-the-last Ubuntu one (Gutsy?&quot; was probably the best of them all.

I don&#039;t get why so many people hate the Ubuntu brown themes. Admittedly, I&#039;ve always liked very white themes (read: KDE Oxygen with Aya).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scored by originality and attractiveness, I must say that the third-to-the-last Ubuntu one (Gutsy?&#8221; was probably the best of them all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get why so many people hate the Ubuntu brown themes. Admittedly, I&#8217;ve always liked very white themes (read: KDE Oxygen with Aya).</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109667</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comic post. Gave me a chuckle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comic post. Gave me a chuckle.</p>
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		<title>By: Smb</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109662</link>
		<dc:creator>Smb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fedora. Ubuntu artwork is just too dark and unattractive to the eye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fedora. Ubuntu artwork is just too dark and unattractive to the eye.</p>
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		<title>By: nicu</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109645</link>
		<dc:creator>nicu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I won&#039;t talk much about the Ubuntu wallpapers since I am barely familiar with them, but I acknowledge ours (Fedora&#039;s) are quite different from one release to another: some better and some worse. And I know people who love those I consider worse and hate those I consider better.

Talking about Fedora wallpapers, it should be noted they can be split in two categories and I would make the split around FC6: before that, they were developed behind closed doors, by a designer hired by Red Hat. The community kicked in before FC6, so the artwork for FC6 and F7 was somewhat an intermediary mix and since from F8 it is entirely done in the open.

What I like about both Fedora and Ubuntu artwork (and argued for from the inside) is the color consistency, the color (blue, brown) is used as a mark of the distro. Is enough a glimpse to a screenshot and you recognize the distribution instantly.

That was a decision we took in F8, remove *all* the branding from the wallpaper, you won&#039;t see any logo or distro name, the reason for this is to encourage re-use. The only  branding element is the blue color and it is a secondary element.

With all those said, I can tell you one more thing: with the current sketches, we are going to a totally new direction in F11, it will probably look unlike any of the previous releases (we&#039;ll see if the direction is good or wrong).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t talk much about the Ubuntu wallpapers since I am barely familiar with them, but I acknowledge ours (Fedora&#8217;s) are quite different from one release to another: some better and some worse. And I know people who love those I consider worse and hate those I consider better.</p>
<p>Talking about Fedora wallpapers, it should be noted they can be split in two categories and I would make the split around FC6: before that, they were developed behind closed doors, by a designer hired by Red Hat. The community kicked in before FC6, so the artwork for FC6 and F7 was somewhat an intermediary mix and since from F8 it is entirely done in the open.</p>
<p>What I like about both Fedora and Ubuntu artwork (and argued for from the inside) is the color consistency, the color (blue, brown) is used as a mark of the distro. Is enough a glimpse to a screenshot and you recognize the distribution instantly.</p>
<p>That was a decision we took in F8, remove *all* the branding from the wallpaper, you won&#8217;t see any logo or distro name, the reason for this is to encourage re-use. The only  branding element is the blue color and it is a secondary element.</p>
<p>With all those said, I can tell you one more thing: with the current sketches, we are going to a totally new direction in F11, it will probably look unlike any of the previous releases (we&#8217;ll see if the direction is good or wrong).</p>
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		<title>By: Thibauld</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109636</link>
		<dc:creator>Thibauld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really surprised that people here like the intrepid ibex wallpaper! I&#039;m not a graphical designer and, like most people out here, I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s technically well executed or not... just look at it: it&#039;s horrible ! When I first saw it, I though it was some kind of an angry evil creature.... If I had to give it a title, I would call it &quot;brown nightmare&quot;. it is definitely not inviting! The Heron what much much nicer imho.

Although I was originally pleasantly surprised by the originality of using brown colors in the first ubuntu versions, now that the &quot;originality effect&quot; has passed... I don&#039;t like them any more. I made a quick poll in my family and they all prefer &quot;blue based&quot; wallpapers... more inviting to them. Blue, green... colors may be less original but I think it is likely to please more people.  Isn&#039;t that what we want at the end ? I, for one, would support Ubuntu moving to &quot;happier&quot; / &quot;zenier&quot; / &quot;nicer&quot; wallpapers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really surprised that people here like the intrepid ibex wallpaper! I&#8217;m not a graphical designer and, like most people out here, I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s technically well executed or not&#8230; just look at it: it&#8217;s horrible ! When I first saw it, I though it was some kind of an angry evil creature&#8230;. If I had to give it a title, I would call it &#8220;brown nightmare&#8221;. it is definitely not inviting! The Heron what much much nicer imho.</p>
<p>Although I was originally pleasantly surprised by the originality of using brown colors in the first ubuntu versions, now that the &#8220;originality effect&#8221; has passed&#8230; I don&#8217;t like them any more. I made a quick poll in my family and they all prefer &#8220;blue based&#8221; wallpapers&#8230; more inviting to them. Blue, green&#8230; colors may be less original but I think it is likely to please more people.  Isn&#8217;t that what we want at the end ? I, for one, would support Ubuntu moving to &#8220;happier&#8221; / &#8220;zenier&#8221; / &#8220;nicer&#8221; wallpapers.</p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109603</link>
		<dc:creator>foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, artists should contribute wallpapers/themes etc to GNOME/KDE and everyone, Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu etc should all use the same ones.

We don&#039;t like non-upstreamed patches, so why should artwork be any different?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, artists should contribute wallpapers/themes etc to GNOME/KDE and everyone, Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu etc should all use the same ones.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t like non-upstreamed patches, so why should artwork be any different?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Morley</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109597</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Morley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing solid yet I think Kubuntu is probably final now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing solid yet I think Kubuntu is probably final now.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109591</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109590</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t care much for the Mac and Windows themes that seem to be popular on GNOME and KDE theming sites. I like my desktop to look unique, and stand out. I like to have individuality and character. Coping Mac or Windows seems like we&#039;re playing catch up, and I&#039;d rather keep it separate. Just me though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care much for the Mac and Windows themes that seem to be popular on GNOME and KDE theming sites. I like my desktop to look unique, and stand out. I like to have individuality and character. Coping Mac or Windows seems like we&#8217;re playing catch up, and I&#8217;d rather keep it separate. Just me though.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109589</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You also did not read the post. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You also did not read the post. <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/#comment-109588</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You didn&#039;t read the post, did you? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t read the post, did you? <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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