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	<title>Comments on: Ubuntu Codenames</title>
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		<title>By: OfNoNation</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-111117</link>
		<dc:creator>OfNoNation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the code-names are pointless and quite confusing... especially when the release number it omitted. Why do we want this romantic little cuddly bunny rabbit association with a computer operating system?  Using release numbers gives an almost instant impression of how long ago the version in question was published.  I forget the names really easily, but not the numbers. I&#039;m using 10.04 now but I&#039;d have to think a while to remember the name it was given. I  know that the last Ubuntu I installed was 9.04 which was obviously two releases ago and was issued a year before the current one. Also, how long will it b b4 th names r abbreviated in the ridiculously lazy way of typing on the internet that is becoming the norm?... Brzy Bgr, Fsty Fwn,... 
Is it a kind of tribal, clubby thing where people are ashamed not to know the latest meaningless slang name for something, even when that name is a word used totally out of the context of it&#039;s true meaning? 
Am I just being totally unromantic? Call me a Boring Baboon, a Grumpy Goat, or a Sad Slug.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the code-names are pointless and quite confusing&#8230; especially when the release number it omitted. Why do we want this romantic little cuddly bunny rabbit association with a computer operating system?  Using release numbers gives an almost instant impression of how long ago the version in question was published.  I forget the names really easily, but not the numbers. I&#8217;m using 10.04 now but I&#8217;d have to think a while to remember the name it was given. I  know that the last Ubuntu I installed was 9.04 which was obviously two releases ago and was issued a year before the current one. Also, how long will it b b4 th names r abbreviated in the ridiculously lazy way of typing on the internet that is becoming the norm?&#8230; Brzy Bgr, Fsty Fwn,&#8230;<br />
Is it a kind of tribal, clubby thing where people are ashamed not to know the latest meaningless slang name for something, even when that name is a word used totally out of the context of it&#8217;s true meaning?<br />
Am I just being totally unromantic? Call me a Boring Baboon, a Grumpy Goat, or a Sad Slug.</p>
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		<title>By: Guiritan Domsz</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109993</link>
		<dc:creator>Guiritan Domsz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 09:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i love ubuntu CodeNames their were alphabetically 
paired-up as version releases. i wish that they add
some Philippine animals as the candidate for next
releases...

:) thanks guys]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love ubuntu CodeNames their were alphabetically<br />
paired-up as version releases. i wish that they add<br />
some Philippine animals as the candidate for next<br />
releases&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  thanks guys</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109763</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s good. Just like all the previous names, it&#039;ll take some time getting used to. If you read the email, it&#039;s well written support the Koala, and the reason he chose it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s good. Just like all the previous names, it&#8217;ll take some time getting used to. If you read the email, it&#8217;s well written support the Koala, and the reason he chose it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Brinks</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109760</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Brinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html" rel="nofollow">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Brinks</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109759</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Brinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like code names, but you make a great point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like code names, but you make a great point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109758</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thoughts on the future? Karmic Koala?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughts on the future? Karmic Koala?!</p>
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		<title>By: BrettA</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109668</link>
		<dc:creator>BrettA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More over, Ubuntu needs to start branding their versions as &quot;8.10&quot; or &quot;6.06&quot;; who can sit at a computer and immediately tell me that you&#039;re booting 6.06 or 8.10 without knowing it from experience?

You can use (a) the terminal or (b) System &gt; About Ubuntu to find the answer. There is no way for the casual user to know what system they&#039;re on unless they know from experience or from some one telling them previously.

I propose showing the version number in the boot up and boot down sequence and in GDM/KDM.

What do you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More over, Ubuntu needs to start branding their versions as &#8220;8.10&#8243; or &#8220;6.06&#8243;; who can sit at a computer and immediately tell me that you&#8217;re booting 6.06 or 8.10 without knowing it from experience?</p>
<p>You can use (a) the terminal or (b) System &gt; About Ubuntu to find the answer. There is no way for the casual user to know what system they&#8217;re on unless they know from experience or from some one telling them previously.</p>
<p>I propose showing the version number in the boot up and boot down sequence and in GDM/KDM.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Peng&#8217;s links for Thursday, 12 February &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109664</link>
		<dc:creator>Peng&#8217;s links for Thursday, 12 February &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Toponce: Ubuntu Codenames. Aaron makes an important point about our love of referring to versions of Ubuntu by their [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Toponce: Ubuntu Codenames. Aaron makes an important point about our love of referring to versions of Ubuntu by their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JD Evora</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109656</link>
		<dc:creator>JD Evora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I can only remember the current code name, I know that I&#039;m using Ubuntu since 5.10, I don&#039;t have a  clue about its code name.
Cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I can only remember the current code name, I know that I&#8217;m using Ubuntu since 5.10, I don&#8217;t have a  clue about its code name.<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: JD Evora</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109655</link>
		<dc:creator>JD Evora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m 100% with you.

Specially in the sources file, EVERY time that I have to take a look to a machine that doesn&#039;t has the latest version I have to Google the code name for get a picture about what should I do with it. 

Cheers
 JD

PS: Actually I recently discovered lsb_release -a  makes my live easier ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 100% with you.</p>
<p>Specially in the sources file, EVERY time that I have to take a look to a machine that doesn&#8217;t has the latest version I have to Google the code name for get a picture about what should I do with it. </p>
<p>Cheers<br />
 JD</p>
<p>PS: Actually I recently discovered lsb_release -a  makes my live easier <img src='http://pthree.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wolfger</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109651</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re 100% (or at least 90%) wrong. Code names are far more memorable than version numbers. Which is why people remember and (in my experience, at least) use them. I don&#039;t know anybody who say&#039;s &quot;I&#039;ve been running Ubuntu since 7.04&quot;, but a good number of folks who say &quot;I&#039;ve been running Ubuntu since Feisty.&quot; Likewise, nobody even knows or cares which version number of Windows is called Vista. They just call it Vista. Quick... what is the current version of the Macintosh OS? Any Mac-head will tell you it&#039;s Leopard, or OS X Leopard. What version number is that? Does anybody care? No.

Are the Ubuntu codenames too cutesy? Possibly. Probably. But if that&#039;s the issue, then we just need to change the naming scheme. Dumping the use of codenames is NOT the way to go.

P.S. the issues I used to have with posting a comment here still exist. Would be nice if that could get fixed eventually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re 100% (or at least 90%) wrong. Code names are far more memorable than version numbers. Which is why people remember and (in my experience, at least) use them. I don&#8217;t know anybody who say&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;ve been running Ubuntu since 7.04&#8243;, but a good number of folks who say &#8220;I&#8217;ve been running Ubuntu since Feisty.&#8221; Likewise, nobody even knows or cares which version number of Windows is called Vista. They just call it Vista. Quick&#8230; what is the current version of the Macintosh OS? Any Mac-head will tell you it&#8217;s Leopard, or OS X Leopard. What version number is that? Does anybody care? No.</p>
<p>Are the Ubuntu codenames too cutesy? Possibly. Probably. But if that&#8217;s the issue, then we just need to change the naming scheme. Dumping the use of codenames is NOT the way to go.</p>
<p>P.S. the issues I used to have with posting a comment here still exist. Would be nice if that could get fixed eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109649</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheetah, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard. (the only one I actually had to look up was Panther, and I don&#039;t even own a mac... Maybe I&#039;ve been watching those keynotes too much) I see your point though. It&#039;s much easier to remember the codename of the current version or the previous, but not necessarily ones before that. Maybe it&#039;s more of an issue with Ubuntu, since you have a lot more versions supported at any given time, while with OSX, you usually have at most two.

A warthog is a type of pig (related to boars), while a hedgehog is in its own family (Erinaceinae). Badgers are in the same family as weasels, otters and ferrets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheetah, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard. (the only one I actually had to look up was Panther, and I don&#8217;t even own a mac&#8230; Maybe I&#8217;ve been watching those keynotes too much) I see your point though. It&#8217;s much easier to remember the codename of the current version or the previous, but not necessarily ones before that. Maybe it&#8217;s more of an issue with Ubuntu, since you have a lot more versions supported at any given time, while with OSX, you usually have at most two.</p>
<p>A warthog is a type of pig (related to boars), while a hedgehog is in its own family (Erinaceinae). Badgers are in the same family as weasels, otters and ferrets.</p>
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		<title>By: David A</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109647</link>
		<dc:creator>David A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[English is not my first language. I have to consult wikipedia to build a mental picture of the code names. I guess sometimes native english-speaking people that are not literature-professors have to too.

But then, when you have a picture, the Heron has a certain charm.

I do remember the first Ubuntu I tried was 6.06. I do not remember its code name. I do not directly remember when, but I can accurately deduce what year it must have been.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>English is not my first language. I have to consult wikipedia to build a mental picture of the code names. I guess sometimes native english-speaking people that are not literature-professors have to too.</p>
<p>But then, when you have a picture, the Heron has a certain charm.</p>
<p>I do remember the first Ubuntu I tried was 6.06. I do not remember its code name. I do not directly remember when, but I can accurately deduce what year it must have been.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109644</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark has made the version numbers with Ubuntu easy though. Who knows when OpenOfice.org 3 came out, but who knows when Ubuntu 8.10 came out? I believe that was the point of his versioning syntax- he wanted people to know when the release happened, so they could have a sense of perspective on the distribution.

Again, I&#039;m not suggesting scrapping the codenames, just that the community will use the version numbers more. That&#039;s all, really.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark has made the version numbers with Ubuntu easy though. Who knows when OpenOfice.org 3 came out, but who knows when Ubuntu 8.10 came out? I believe that was the point of his versioning syntax- he wanted people to know when the release happened, so they could have a sense of perspective on the distribution.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not suggesting scrapping the codenames, just that the community will use the version numbers more. That&#8217;s all, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://pthree.org/2009/02/08/ubuntu-codenames/#comment-109643</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point of the post is recalling &lt;u&gt;when&lt;/u&gt; the release happened, not &lt;u&gt;what&lt;/u&gt;. Didn&#039;t I make this clear? I thought I did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of the post is recalling <u>when</u> the release happened, not <u>what</u>. Didn&#8217;t I make this clear? I thought I did.</p>
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