Comments on: 7 Reasons Why I Have NOT Switched To Google Chrome From Firefox http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/ Linux. GNU. Freedom. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:59:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-alpha By: Dan Kegel http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110301 Dan Kegel Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:29:55 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110301 The session restore problem you mentioned might be http://crbug.com/7584 The session restore problem you mentioned
might be http://crbug.com/7584

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]]> By: Thomas M http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110279 Thomas M Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:04:45 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110279 Chrome seems very promising and it has become my browser of choice. As a webdeveloper I still use Firefox for development because of the extensions but for plain browsing I find chrome to be more performant and comfortable. Performance might be not an issue browsing the web but load a heavy backend in ff and chrome and you will see a difference. Also the chrome developers seem to care more about linux users than mozilla does. FF's Performance under linux is much worse than under windows and unless you go into configuring the default looks like crap on KDE. Chrome while still young have already a 64Bit Linux optimized version on the way. I use the daily snapshots and things improve by the day. As an example I've been browsing the whole evening on chrome and it uses 51 MB RAM with currently 6 tabs open. I just fired up firefox and with no tab open it already uses 56MB. btw for the browser detector - I'm using chrome on Arch linux :-) Chrome seems very promising and it has become my browser of choice. As a webdeveloper I still use Firefox for development because of the extensions but for plain browsing I find chrome to be more performant and comfortable.
Performance might be not an issue browsing the web but load a heavy backend in ff and chrome and you will see a difference.
Also the chrome developers seem to care more about linux users than mozilla does. FF’s Performance under linux is much worse than under windows and unless you go into configuring the default looks like crap on KDE. Chrome while still young have already a 64Bit Linux optimized version on the way. I use the daily snapshots and things improve by the day.
As an example I’ve been browsing the whole evening on chrome and it uses 51 MB RAM with currently 6 tabs open. I just fired up firefox and with no tab open it already uses 56MB.

btw for the browser detector – I’m using chrome on Arch linux :-)

]]> By: Roshan http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110274 Roshan Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:38:41 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110274 You can use Tabs Open Relative to make Firefox <3.6 open tabs in a sane manner. You can hit Ctrl-K to go straight to the Search box. Ctrl-Up and Ctrl-Down will then shift through the search engines. I prefer this to hitting 'en' on Chrome and waiting for en.wikipedia.org to show up so that I can hit Tab and then search. Too slow. <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/125970" rel="nofollow">Firefox bug 125970</a> is a pain in the ass. It makes Slashdot unusable (which is in the greater good, but a browser should not make this choice). Chromium is less susceptible. P.S. The ordering of your post-a-comment fields could use a little improvement. Hitting tab from the 'Website' field should go to the 'Comment' field, not to Preview, as it just did on Firefox 3.0 You can use Tabs Open Relative to make Firefox <3.6 open tabs in a sane manner.

You can hit Ctrl-K to go straight to the Search box. Ctrl-Up and Ctrl-Down will then shift through the search engines. I prefer this to hitting 'en' on Chrome and waiting for en.wikipedia.org to show up so that I can hit Tab and then search. Too slow.

Firefox bug 125970 is a pain in the ass. It makes Slashdot unusable (which is in the greater good, but a browser should not make this choice). Chromium is less susceptible.

P.S. The ordering of your post-a-comment fields could use a little improvement. Hitting tab from the ‘Website’ field should go to the ‘Comment’ field, not to Preview, as it just did on Firefox 3.0

]]> By: Florian http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110273 Florian Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:05:32 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110273 Regarding to your speed argument, even when trying to keep my cache clean and autocompletion-db tidied and vacuumed, when I accidently close FF and click on a link somewhere it takes ages for it to start from fresh. Additionally on some machines the awesomebar-completion gets stuck for a whole second or two after typing the first 1-2 letters. Annoying. and I haven't found a fix. Agree to the Chrome crashes. exactly as frequently as FF. Oh well, I'm using both (especially if I need to be logged in to the same site twice, basically all the time) and I'm also very fine with both, no big zealotry needed, they can happily coexist. Regarding to your speed argument, even when trying to keep my cache clean and autocompletion-db tidied and vacuumed, when I accidently close FF and click on a link somewhere it takes ages for it to start from fresh.
Additionally on some machines the awesomebar-completion gets stuck for a whole second or two after typing the first 1-2 letters. Annoying. and I haven’t found a fix.
Agree to the Chrome crashes. exactly as frequently as FF.

Oh well, I’m using both (especially if I need to be logged in to the same site twice, basically all the time) and I’m also very fine with both, no big zealotry needed, they can happily coexist.

]]> By: Anonymous http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110271 Anonymous Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:14:51 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110271 You didn't mention one of the biggest drawbacks to Chrome: each install of Chrome generates a "cookie" that uniquely identifies that particular installation no matter where you connect to the net from. It gets sent to Google at least 24 hours, but also with every search query, and in some other conditions. And it can't be turned off. For a company whose motto is "don't be evil", tracking and storing your user's web browsing habits at such a detailed level certainly sounds pretty evil to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Usage_tracking You didn’t mention one of the biggest drawbacks to Chrome: each install of Chrome generates a “cookie” that uniquely identifies that particular installation no matter where you connect to the net from. It gets sent to Google at least 24 hours, but also with every search query, and in some other conditions. And it can’t be turned off. For a company whose motto is “don’t be evil”, tracking and storing your user’s web browsing habits at such a detailed level certainly sounds pretty evil to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Usage_tracking

]]> By: Rob Bean http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110270 Rob Bean Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:04:04 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110270 Browser choice and the like seem to be almost a personal preference these days. Since the rendering engines are limited to Webkit and Gecko these days, choosing which "wrapper" to use is entirely dependent on what feature set you need. Browser choice and the like seem to be almost a personal preference these days. Since the rendering engines are limited to Webkit and Gecko these days, choosing which “wrapper” to use is entirely dependent on what feature set you need.

]]> By: kumar http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110264 kumar Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:57:14 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110264 Chrome (the last version I've tried, which was v3x) does not have a 'master password' feature to safeguard all my saved passwords. Firefox has been having this for some time and it's a real killer factor for me. Chrome (the last version I’ve tried, which was v3x) does not have a ‘master password’ feature to safeguard all my saved passwords. Firefox has been having this for some time and it’s a real killer factor for me.

]]> By: Minter Affic http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110262 Minter Affic Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:51:58 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110262 There is one other reason Google Chrome should not be used. It does not render websites correctly at all. There is one other reason Google Chrome should not be used. It does not render websites correctly at all.

]]> By: gedece http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110261 gedece Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:01:43 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110261 One thing that must be added to this analisys is that each tab in Chrome is a different process with a different memory space. This not only means that when you close a tab you recover every bit of memory you used on it (wich doesn't happen in firefox, where you recover most of it but not all of it, and in the long run produces memory fragmentation). It also means that unless the main process or gears are compromised (which could hang the entire browser) each tab failure is handled by the tab, freeing the rest of the browser. This means that the browser can crash (so does firefox) but it's more unlikely to do so. Third, the private mode, being on a different proccess and memory space is light years more secure than most browsers private mode. Other browsers don't remember things, granted, but they don't sandbox the private mode, meaning anything nasty happening in other browsers private mode doesn't stay only in the private mode. So yes, I like firefox a lot, and it's far better under GNU/Linux that Chromium so far, but let's not ignore Chrome strongest point: sandboxing. One thing that must be added to this analisys is that each tab in Chrome is a different process with a different memory space. This not only means that when you close a tab you recover every bit of memory you used on it (wich doesn’t happen in firefox, where you recover most of it but not all of it, and in the long run produces memory fragmentation). It also means that unless the main process or gears are compromised (which could hang the entire browser) each tab failure is handled by the tab, freeing the rest of the browser. This means that the browser can crash (so does firefox) but it’s more unlikely to do so.
Third, the private mode, being on a different proccess and memory space is light years more secure than most browsers private mode. Other browsers don’t remember things, granted, but they don’t sandbox the private mode, meaning anything nasty happening in other browsers private mode doesn’t stay only in the private mode.

So yes, I like firefox a lot, and it’s far better under GNU/Linux that Chromium so far, but let’s not ignore Chrome strongest point: sandboxing.

]]> By: opensas http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110260 opensas Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:50:45 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110260 here you have a portable version of chrome, and a few surprises... http://www.chromeplus.org/download.html and here you have another option, with the focus on privacy... http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php here you have a portable version of chrome, and a few surprises…

http://www.chromeplus.org/download.html

and here you have another option, with the focus on privacy…

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php

]]> By: ikkefc3 http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110259 ikkefc3 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:14:36 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110259 The scrolling speed of Chrome is noticeably better on Chromium than about any other browser on Ubuntu (only Midori comes close). On a netbook, this makes a huge difference, but even on my desktop with a Geforce GTX 260 and an Intel Core i5 quadcore, Planet Ubuntu doesn't scroll fluently on Firefox, while it does scroll very fluent on Chromium (when scrolling fast). The scrolling speed of Chrome is noticeably better on Chromium than about any other browser on Ubuntu (only Midori comes close).
On a netbook, this makes a huge difference, but even on my desktop with a Geforce GTX 260 and an Intel Core i5 quadcore, Planet Ubuntu doesn’t scroll fluently on Firefox, while it does scroll very fluent on Chromium (when scrolling fast).

]]> By: nasrullah http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110258 nasrullah Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:51:18 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110258 Chrome is working well on my Kubuntu Jaunty......... Chrome is working well on my Kubuntu Jaunty………

]]> By: Christian Archer http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110257 Christian Archer Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:47:14 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110257 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux; en-GB) AppleWebKit/527+ (KHTML, like Gecko, Safari/419.3) Arora/0.9.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US) AppleWebKit/532.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/4.0.221.8 Safari/532.2 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/531.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.3 Safari/531.9.1 These User Agent strings are quite definitive about both browser and operating system. As we see, true Safari has Version/... substring where others use their titles. The real fallback for Safari/... should be WebKit p.s. I use Firefox 3.7 pre-alpha. I'm a pervert, I know :-D Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux; en-GB) AppleWebKit/527+ (KHTML, like Gecko, Safari/419.3) Arora/0.9.0

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US) AppleWebKit/532.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/4.0.221.8 Safari/532.2

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/531.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.3 Safari/531.9.1

These User Agent strings are quite definitive about both browser and operating system. As we see, true Safari has Version/… substring where others use their titles. The real fallback for Safari/… should be WebKit

p.s. I use Firefox 3.7 pre-alpha. I’m a pervert, I know :-D

]]> By: Agus Winata http://pthree.org/2009/10/12/7-reasons-why-i-have-not-switched-to-google-chrome-from-firefox/#comment-110256 Agus Winata Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:59:06 +0000 http://pthree.org/?p=1138#comment-110256 I think you're forgot one thing, Chromium or Google Chrome consume alot of my cpu resourse.,. atm i'll stick with firefox I think you’re forgot one thing, Chromium or Google Chrome consume alot of my cpu resourse.,. atm i’ll stick with firefox

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