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Edgy Isn't Ready

Well, duh. I is only at stage "Knot 2", which means it's still beta. However, with that said, I find it to be more alpha than anything.

Last night was one of the most unpleasant that I have had for a while. I decided to make the jump from Dapper to Edgy, thinking it would go fairly smooth. Heh. Boy, was I wrong. When all was said and done, I had over 30 broken packages, 300 unresolved dependancies, and X would not start.

And that's just the beginning.

Thinking to myself that I can downgrade just as easily as upgrade, I proceed to try and reset everything back to Dapper packages. Well, let's just say that Ubuntu, and probably most distros, don't work that way. It's easy to upgrade, but forget about downgrading. I broke more packages and created all sorts of mayhem on the machine.

Well, I realized that it was probably time to back up my config files and data, wipe the hard drive, and reinstall. And that is exactly what I did. Less than 20 minutes later, I had a clean Dapper 6.06.1 install. Everything is running nice and snappy, and very solid.

It's only when I start installing packages that I realized I didn't backup everything. Oh what a pain. GPG keys, Gaim settings, and more all lost. All because I thought I could make the simple upgrade from Dapper to Edgy Knot 2.

Is Edgy ready? If you ask me, definitely not!

{ 5 } Comments

  1. Christer Edwards using Firefox 1.5.0.5 on GNU/Linux | September 9, 2006 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    Sorry you had such a poor experience with it. I've been running it now for a few days & I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I'm reluctant to install it on my production laptop that I use for work, but my home desktop is worthy of the test.

    Doesn't make sense that you would have so many broken packages yet mine runs fine considering we used the same update method. Ooh well..

  2. jtaber using Firefox 1.5.0.5 on Ubuntu | September 9, 2006 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    What are you trying to prove with this post - that an early test release doesn't work well? Duh. Or that you committed the stupid sin of not paying attention to all the warning messages and putting this on a production machine. If the RC crashes then you might post something like this. Honestly, think twice - post once. Perhaps Ubuntu should go back to using simple "Test 1, Test 2" instead of fun names that might be giving people like you a sense of release stability.

  3. Tristan Rhodes using Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP | September 9, 2006 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Aaron,

    I am sorry to hear about your experience, but I think it is fair to say that you asked for it. Ubuntu has a completely transparent development process, which means that anyone can choose to run a development releases if they want to see what is being worked on, and possibly help with the testing of those changes.

    The Knot releases should be considered Alpha quality. And Knot 2 is only the second Alpha release in a string of Alpha releases (probably around 8). After these Alphas have become more stable, then Ubuntu will release 2 or 3 Beta quality releases. After those Beta releases are tested by a wider audience, Ubuntu will release a few Release Candidates, which are more stable than the Betas.

    The Release Candidates can be tested on personal machines by Linux-savvy users, but there is still some risk. Most likely there will only be small bugs at this point, having gone through the Alpha and Beta phases. However, important production systems should wait until the final release is ready before upgrading. If you want to be very safe, then wait a month after the official release so that millions of people test the system before you do.

    I hope you don't fault Ubuntu for your bad experience. I am personally very excited about the future of Ubuntu, and I love watching how the Knots are developing. During the development of Dapper, I used a virtual machine to follow the development of the Alpha Flights. I really enjoyed seeing which packages were being updated, what the release notes were, and seeing how the GUI aspects changed right in front of my eyes.

    This is open source at it's best.

    Tristan Rhodes

  4. Aaron using Firefox 1.5.0.5 on Ubuntu | September 9, 2006 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    John-

    Edgy isn't ready. That's all. Why the need from you to come out swinging? I don't blame Ubuntu or the devs for the current state it's in. It just isn't ready. With only weeks before the final is scheduled to be released, it isn't ready. Edgy isn't ready. But I have to ask why you feel the urge to attack?

    Tristan-

    Yeah. I asked for it. No question there. However, I would've expected more stability, as the snapshot is always pulled from the latest Debian Sid (or is is Debian testing?). Then again, it could be my hardware, and the fact that I have more than enough software installed on this machine that caused the crash. At any event, I'm back to Dapper, and will probably stay there for a few weeks after the Egdy release.

  5. Christer using Firefox 1.5.0.5 on Windows XP | September 15, 2006 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Knot 3 is available now :) aren't you so tempted :)

    Man I'm awful aren't I

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