Comments on: Drawing the Line https://pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/ Linux. GNU. Freedom. Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:42:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9-alpha-41547 By: Aaron https://pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9769 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:24:59 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9769 Matt-

I enjoy your blog, and read it with every new post. I enjoy your enthusiasm and optimism. However, I think you're failing to miss my point on the post. Let me explain a little further.

First, I don't want to work with a company that is not F/OSS friendly. Reason being, those companies are more interested in politics and rules. They don't take risks, and fail to see the larger picture. I know. I've worked with a few of them, and I don't want to any longer. I'd rather jump into a corporation the will give me the trust and freedom I deserve with F/OSS applications.

Second, the vendor/client/customer reltionships are part of what make companies very sucessesful. We are all aware of this. We should also know, that the software that those relationships use are almost wholly non-free. While free software is penetrating the corporate market, it has a long way to go before becoming mainstream. This is another reason why I want to look for a company that it F/OSS friendly. I'm not interested in using non-free software in hopes to convert my client/vendor/customer to free software.

So anyway, that's where I stand professionally. Give me free software at the get-go, or I'm not interested in working for your company.

Lastly, about academia, while it is silly for classes to require the use of proprietary/non-free software, especially in Computer Science, and I couldn't agree more, it is the case nontheless. But it is more silly to make a professor download and install a seperate application, just so he/she can read/use my file. If you haven't learned, professors aren't really interested in creating exceptions for students, and it's silly to require the professor to make one for you.

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By: Aaron https://pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9768 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:06:25 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9768 John-

Thank you. I was aware of that, but didn't think about it specifically when creating the post. I've updated the post to say "VisualStudio.NET".

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By: John Anderson https://pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9730 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 16:42:13 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9730 It was a good read, But you can compile .NET with mono so I didn't like your .NET example! 😀

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By: matt https://pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9638 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 05:50:47 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9638 sorry, brain no thinking.
s/gimp/photoshop/

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By: matt https://pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9637 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 05:48:47 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9637 Hmmm, I disagree with your assessment of the "professional" use of open source. I'm seeing it being used everywhere, more and more. (And if manager-types say it is not being used, it is because their subordinates just aren't telling them.) I also believe it is in your best interest (and mine) to push for an open source solution in the workplace where possible (definitions of possible can range over a wide continuum). And perhaps looking for only open source friendly companies is not the best way to spread the use of open source. How else will these "evil" companies change? Sometimes it takes companies a while to see the light. I suggested (at least) three major open source solution open source solutions at my last employer (I would classify them as a java/ms shop). One took 1 month to implement, just they hadn't heard of it before (subversion), one took one year (tomcat) and one took 4 years (linux). They are better off for all of those choices.

In an pure academic setting it is usually silly for classes to require you to use proprietary software (if you are studying CS, maybe if you are graphic design, you'll need gimp). I think it would be irresponsible for profs to require non-free or open source software. Others are free to disagree, and I'm not a prof, so what do I know?

I like you points on personal use. Being able to control my data is important, and is one of the reasons why people have begun the Mac to linux migration....

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By: Christer Edwards https://pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9617 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:14:20 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2006/10/08/drawing-the-line/#comment-9617 Interesting read & actually an eye-opener. I hadn't even thought about other types of household hardware. I guess it would be safer to say "we advocate the use of free software on the PC".

I'm glad to hear you're sticking around. Would be quite a loss to all of us to see you go to another community. I can say I was a bit nervous reading your post & quite relieved to hear the outcome.

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