Comments on: BSD License Explained In Layman Terms https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/ Linux. GNU. Freedom. Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:29:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9-alpha-41547 By: Bob Berliner https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-111470 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:27:42 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-111470 Google uses Yahoo BSD licensed code in iGoogle so take a look at how they copyright since you can bet they've got some good attorneys making sure it's correct:

/* ===============BEGIN BSD LICENSED PORTION============= */
/*
Copyright (c) 2007, Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Code licensed under the BSD License:
http://developer.yahoo.net/yui/license.txt
version: 2.2.0
*/

#modules .yui-b {
position:static;
display:block;
margin:0 0 1em 0;
float:none;
width:auto;
overflow:hidden;
}
.yui-gb .yui-u {
float:left;
margin-left:2%;
*margin-left:1.895%;
width:32%;
}
.yui-gb div.first {
margin-left:0;
}
#modules,.yui-gb {
zoom:1;
}
/* ===============END BSD LICENSED PORTION============= */

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By: Danny https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-111466 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:07:12 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-111466 So do I understand correctly that I can use code with a BSD license in an application that I intend to sell? Where and how am I supposed to include the copyright and disclaimer portions with the application that utilizes said code?

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By: melwyn https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-111436 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 19:32:19 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-111436 if i develop a software using python or gcc can i Sell it?
if i rewrite vlc player in java can i Sell it?
if i can sell should i make my source code public?

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By: Sandeepan Kundu https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-109102 Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:42:00 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-109102 as long as the copyright, conditions and disclaimer are present.
can somebody explain me this line in detail...
exactly what copyright msg should contain...

i am really confused with this terms....

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By: Glen https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-66690 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:55:21 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-66690 Perhaps also important:
Study: Reduced Open Source developer productivity linked to "restrictive" FLOSS licenses (where "restrictive"=GPL and non-restrictive=BSD)
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By: Aaron https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64588 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:00:39 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64588 @jldugger- Yes. Simple typo, actually. Updated with the fix. Thanks for the heads up.

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By: jldugger https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64586 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:36:46 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64586 Lest this post become part of the interpretation of BSD, let's clarify that you're not allowed to use the name of the originating Parent Company, not "your" parent company, without permission. One makes sense, the other does not.

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By: new back https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64571 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:34:07 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64571 That is true, you can't change the license. But, if you are not distriuting the work further you don't have to give out the modified source code either. You can't build an obligation (under present terms) that internally only used copies should all be published. And that's what providing a service in fact is under at least the terms used in GPLv2.

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By: Aaron https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64568 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:17:02 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64568 @new back- Incorrect. Any derivative work of GPL-licensed code must also retain the GPL license, regardless. GPL code prevents the work from becoming proprietary.

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By: new back https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64559 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:04:50 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64559 To clarify this.

I was referring to creating a derivative using previously GPL-licensed software, and not having to release the code. I could take some GPL'd webmail code, modify it heavily, start charging people for the magnificent new service, and never have to release a thing. In the service case the GPLv2 at least does not force me to release anything no matter how much GPL'd software I use and for what. It is really obvious from the license when you investigate it objectively.

Freedom is good. I don't believe in forced freedom. Maturing is a process that should be nurtured and guided, not forced. It won't succeed (well) that way.

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By: Aaron https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64555 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:13:55 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64555 @Joseph Scott- Yes. Any BSD-licensed derivative can be relicensed. I am not granted the right to change the BSD-licensed software itself, only derivative works.

@Nobody- Yes. BSD is not a copyleft license, as it is not GPL compatible. However, a license being copyleft doesn't mean a lot to most lay people. Only FSF and Gnu zealots worry about such things. Other people worry about productivity and practicality.

@new back- It's one thing to use tools that are GPL to create a service or software from scratch. It's another to create a GPL-licensed derivative of the service or software, and not release the code. And yes, BSD is a truly liberating license.

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By: new back https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64533 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:55:29 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64533 If you provide a service such as Gmail using modified GPL'd components you don't have to release the modified source code. The SAAS situation (distributing the results that come out of software) is quite different from working with actually distributed software. There's really nothing in the license forcing you to do that. This is true at least for v2, I have not read v3 yet since no significant project is yet using it.

The high level of freedom offered by BSD licenses is great.

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By: Nobody https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64532 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:55:10 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64532 I believe the licenses mess won't be any clearer with the new trolltech gpl exception. Anyway it's always good to remind clearly the point of most used licensed. I would add that BSD is not a copy-left license, it means you can modify the bsd-licensed code and use it as you want (redistribute the code in binary or source code format) without having to publish your modifications to anyone.

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By: Joseph Scott https://pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64512 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:08:37 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/08/bsd-license-explained-in-layman-terms/#comment-64512 I don't think the BSD license grants people the ability to change the license of code exactly. Work based on BSD licensed code can be under a different license (like Mac OS X using FreeBSD code). That would be a situation where other licenses can apply.

That is different than taking the BSD licensed dd implementation and then distributing it as is without modification under a different license. I don't believe the BSD license gives you the right to do that.

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