Comments on: Aptitude Full-Upgrade Versus Safe-Upgrade https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/ Linux. GNU. Freedom. Sun, 13 May 2018 18:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0-alpha-43006 By: infestør https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-124300 Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:32:08 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-124300 i once paid the price using dist-upgrade (same as "full-upgrade")

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By: Steve https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-115419 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 04:31:13 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-115419 where is the KPackageKit in Debian Testing?

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By: ali https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-112596 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 06:13:20 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-112596 thanks !! 🙂

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By: amir https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-111511 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 13:02:54 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-111511 thanx ,

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By: loljak https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-110550 Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:13:04 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-110550 I think that full-upgrade is only for upgrading your distro (from lenny to squeeze, for example). And you can do this hazardous task only if you have a "not too old" install with standard packages (from the debian repositories, I mean ) . And also it's better to do that without your X server running. If after upgrading you're still getting a functional system you should use safe-upgrade for maintenance.

An helpful french ; ))

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By: 8cb8 https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-108827 Sun, 19 Oct 2008 08:18:40 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-108827 Yeah, the safe-upgrade is a good suggestion. I've been running a Debian Testing/Lenny system for a while and am only moderately good at debugging. But I've found with the safe-upgrade instead of full-upgrade, I have far fewer problems arise.

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By: fellini https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-106393 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:11:32 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-106393 Unfortunately, what makes it difficult for users to achieve competency in various Linux distributions is that enlightened users tend not to have time to share best practices with their peers. Linux software and distributions tend to progress faster than the documentation, so it makes it difficult for some users to correlate rtfms with current versions and best practices. This bog answered my question quite concisely.

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By: Matt https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-81271 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:51:48 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-81271 "Curious why, I visited #debian, only to be told to upgrade and RTFM. Nice."

Oh yeah, I heard THAT!
That's one reason why Debian is the worst Linux to use (even though I use it).
It's a sad fact that there are far to many people like this. These e-cowards are one reason why Linux will never be as popular as Windows.
But you know, the openSUSE people are a very helpful crowd. I guess maybe Europeans have much more manners that stoopid amewikans.

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By: James Stansell https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70688 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:50:01 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70688 Running Sid pretty much signifies that "you're adventurous and willing to debug unstable systems." Even testing can be adventurous at times.

As bla said above, you might do better sticking with testing and just installing any additional packages from sid as required. I actually did that with fair results for a few years.

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By: Aaron https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70534 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:52:57 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70534 @Wagner Volanin- This sort of comment is inappropriate for this discussion, and I consider it spam. I've removed the content of your comment due to it's nature. If you wish to reach a large audience through my blog, use the contact link above, and send me an email, and most likely, I will post about it. Thank you.

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By: Wagner Volanin https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70513 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:11:51 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70513 [Content removed by the discretion of the administrator due to it's nature.]

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By: Jason https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70448 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:10:12 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70448 @Anonymous:
"..and maybe use a distro that refrains from telling you to RTFM? Just a thought."

Yeah, that doesn't exist...

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By: bla https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70441 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:33:56 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70441 2.6.22 from sid just installs fine in testing.

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By: MJ Ray https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70428 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:58:56 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70428 Anonymous, the distribution didn't tell him to RTFM. One support channel did.

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By: Aaron https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70420 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:27:24 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70420 @bapoumba- Yeah. Which is fine, it's just the 'full-upgrade' that killed me. I knew about it before hand, however.

@poor man- Ok. I'll run testing when the 2.6.22 kernel reaches the trunk. Until then, I need Sid.

@zulu9- apt-get dist-upgrade was the recommendation of someone else, only to remove several gnome packages end leave me further wishing I had never gotten in this mess.

@monkey- I would recommend Sid over Ubuntu. I have less stability issues and problems with Sid than with Ubuntu, although Dapper is still a beautiful release. With that said, I need the 2.6.22 kernel, and I'm not going to roll my own, as I like what Debian does to it.

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By: monkey https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70417 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:55:56 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70417 For me this easier to try man xxxx first, then googling, and then irc.

But using sid is like using an alpha version of ubuntu, it is not recommended for serious work.

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By: zulu9 https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70404 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:40:47 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70404 debian and esp. #debian do not really support sid. If you run it you are on your own. Anyway, there is a distro dedicated to make sid more useable for mere mortals (with upgrade warnings and support via forum and irc) named sidux.
Maybe give it a try.

They recommend (and support) using the classical apt-get dist-upgrade only to upgrade a sid system and always watch for current alerts in their forum or irc-channel before doing so. There are also some small tools to make this more easy (alert icon, update script etc).

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By: poor man https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70401 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:16:48 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70401 how about running testing, nobody asked you to run the development version 🙂

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By: Anonymous https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70382 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:37:56 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70382 ..and maybe use a distro that refrains from telling you to RTFM? Just a thought.

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By: bapoumba https://pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70367 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:47:34 +0000 http://www.pthree.org/2007/09/24/aptitude-full-upgrade-versus-safe-upgrade/#comment-70367 Hello!
full-upgrade is the former dist-upgrade 🙂

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